PC-25c-1985P-03 Pre-Cud
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Description
Cataloged as PC-25c-1985P-03, this 1985 Philadelphia Washington Quarter preserves a pre-cud — the developmental stage immediately preceding a full cud break. A pre-cud forms when a die crack has propagated to the rim and begun to isolate a section of the die face, but the enclosed piece has not yet separated from the die body. On the struck coin, it appears as a raised line or slight displacement along the rim, marking the boundary where the die steel is beginning to fail but still holds together. The notation indicates this is an obverse pre-cud. In the progression of die failure, the pre-cud occupies a specific position: first a crack appears, then it extends to the rim to create a pre-cud, then the enclosed section partially separates to form a retained cud, and finally the piece breaks away completely to produce a full cud. Each stage is progressively scarcer because many dies are retired before failure advances further. PC-25c-1985P-03, the third pre-cud cataloged for the 1985-P quarter, documents a die caught at this transitional moment — damaged enough to leave diagnostic evidence but not yet broken enough to produce the dramatic raised blob of a complete cud.
Attribution History
- Cross reference number: PC-25c-1985P-03. 01/25/2024.
- Expert attribution by Cuds on Coins
External References
Additional Notes
Note: Obverse Pre-Cud “black arrow”.
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