PC-1c-1864-03R Pre-Cud
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Description
Sharing the same catalog number but appearing on a different die variant, the PC-1c-1864-03R documented here appears on the 1864 Indian Head cent with the "L on Ribbon" variant — the issue bearing designer James B. Longacre's initial on the headdress ribbon, as opposed to the companion entry on the Bronze No L variant. This pre-cud variety shares the same catalog designation (03R) across both 1864 Indian Head cent subtypes, indicating related die crack patterns appeared on dies used for both variants. A pre-cud marks the inception stage of a die break sequence where interconnected hairline cracks have formed along the rim, delineating a section of the die that may eventually separate as a retained cud or full cud, but at this stage the bounded area remains flush with the surrounding die surface. The 1864 Indian Head cent is a pivotal date in the series because it marks the transition from the copper-nickel alloy used from 1859 to 1864 to the thinner, lighter bronze composition that continued through 1909. The change in composition and planchet thickness altered the stress patterns on working dies, and the transition period may have seen experimental adjustments to striking pressure that affected die longevity. Philadelphia's total cent production in 1864 encompassed both the earlier copper-nickel issues and the later bronze pieces, with the L on Ribbon variety representing the latest die preparation in the sequence. No independent cross-references have been established for this variety. Collectors should use magnification of 15-20x and oblique lighting to trace the fine crack network along the rim, noting that pre-cud cracks form a partially or fully enclosed boundary pattern rather than the simple linear paths of ordinary die cracks.
Attribution History
- Discovered by Devin Anderson
- Cross reference: none. 02/12/2019.
- Expert attribution by Cuds on Coins
External References
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